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Orders Militant Adepta Sororitas V1.0

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:42 pm 
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Also if anyone wants to test the gun cutter as a inquisitor aircraft, these are the stats I would suggest as a pair.

Inquisitorial Gun Cutter Bomber
AC/WE 5+/6+/5+
Assault Cannon 30cm AP5+/AT5+/AA5+ FF Arc
Twin Autocannon 45cm AP4+/AT5+ FF Arc
DC2, Reinforced Armour, Transport (4 Inquisitorial Henchmen, Deathcult Assassin, Arco-flagellants)
Critical Hit Effect: The unit and all units on board are destroyed.

Maybe with the ability to planetfall from the Lunar Class spaceship. The points for the pair 275 from the restricted section Imperial Navy and War Engines.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:30 am 
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^ This I like the sound of


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:27 am 
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I had a re-think on the Inquisitor Gun Cutter and I think it should be a single aircraft that can carry an whole formation of the Inquisitor and retinue, the fluff points to that and having a pair may be a bit OTT. So I reckon the same stats but with the transport capacity increased for 200 points per aircraft which can only be taken singly.

Inquisitorial Gun Cutter Bomber
AC/WE 5+/6+/5+
Assault Cannon 30cm AP5+/AT5+/AA5+ FF Arc
Twin Autocannon 45cm AP4+/AT5+ FF Arc
DC2, Reinforced Armour, Transport (8 Inquisitorial Henchmen, Deathcult Assassin, Arco-flagellants)
Critical Hit Effect: The unit and all units on board are destroyed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:08 am 
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I don't think there was a problem with a pack of two Gun Cutter Bombers with transport space.
Doing 1 means your moving into and compaing youself with the ork landa/ thunderhawk and should be priced around those values


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:00 pm 
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Been a bit distracted by getting my Dark Eldar up and running and some tournaments but, ignoring anything on balance or points costs or whatever the list is feeling about right. Sisters rushing forward, faith in the Emperor keeping them safe, then piling out into organised firefights with flame and melta weaponry everywhere.

I hope to get back to buying, building and painting sisters properly in 2016 once my DE are finished, though I might sneak in some vehicles before then ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:53 pm 
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I hope to get back to buying, building and painting sisters properly in 2016 once my DE are finished, though I might sneak in some vehicles before then ;)

We will look forward to your return.

My next set of testing will be focus on giving the Inquisitorial aircraft an outing, I will trying a gun cutter loaded up with a warband and a gun cutter loaded with arco-flagellants.

This is my 3k list.
Mission 250 Canoness SC 100 BTS Immolator 25 +Rhinos
Mission 250 Priest 50 +Rhinos
Coven 200 Repressor 50
Coven 200 Repressor 50
Exocism 250 Hunter 50
Exocism 250 Hunter 50
Inquisitorial Warband 200 Priest 50
Acro-flagellants 250
Gun Cutter 200
Gun Cutter 200
Lightning 150
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:05 am 
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Had a game using the list last posted, the game was vs epicuk knights. The two airassaults during the game went worked although the first airassault I did was a little early which meant I loss the gun cutter. However it did the damage I wanted, the arco-flagellants engage came in on a prepped formation of crusaders just outside the AA bubble killing two for a loss of one unit, the warband then engaged a core formation of paladins with some dominion support/prepped again outside AA bubble with a lucky crit from one of the penitent and for a loss of only a few warband units doing a descent amount of damage. The remaining gun cutter spent the rest of the game doing strafing runs picking on the soft knight formations. It was an entertaining game that I loss turn four 2-0 the discussions during the game saw no reason why the gun cutter should not be included in the list, it favours the use of arco-flagellants and if I include them as transportable repentia as most would take them as ground formations. Although the gun cutter may have to be be restricted to one per warband too keep the theme of the list and not turn it into a all singing airassault army.

the list I faced was something like this
3000 POINTS
Knight World
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BARON RETINUE [600]
1 Baron, 5 Paladins

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [525]
6 Paladins, Seneschal

SUPPORT HOUSEHOLD [350]
3 Knight Crusader

LANCER HOUSEHOLD [300]
3 Lancers

ERRANT HOUSEHOLD [375]
3 Knight Errant, Seneschal

AA GUN BATTERY [150]
3 Heavy AA Guns, 3 tractors

ARTILLERY BATTERY [200]
3 Earthshaker platforms, 3 tractors

MILITIA [175]
6 Militia units, 6 Tractors

MILITIA [175]
6 Militia units, 6 Tractors

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:41 am 
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To make it so the air assault is an option but not a big part of the strategy perhaps rather than making the cutters a separate formation make them an upgrade so it costs you an activation?


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The question with the cutter is that it changes some of the style of the list with having an deep striking option rather than playing area clearance.

I would also say that CAA is a daemon for rolling Criticals, but not at getting the strategy.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:35 pm 
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I know i personally will be filling my Gun Cutter with an Inquisitorial Warband for my air assaults.
Looking forward to testing soon, all my goodies from onslaught are on there way


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:03 am 
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To make it so the air assault is an option but not a big part of the strategy perhaps rather than making the cutters a separate formation make them an upgrade so it costs you an activation?


I think doing that is too complicated as the cutter is an aircraft bomber and is a separate formation. For example would it be a separate formation once it landed and the units disembark or would the units have to re-embark after. I'd rather just restrict it to one per warband with the cutter in the Imperial Navy and War Engines section to make taking the cutter over other choices in the section.

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Yeah that'd work if it was skimmer or support craft but but not an AC. Good call.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:09 am 
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I don't see how making the cutter part of the activation would work, if it is too be included which I'm not sure whether it should be. Making the cutter restricted to one per warband is surely the best solution. You are right in the sense that the list already has a lot of choices of formations and choices of upgrades, but the formations them selves are limited to a certain extent.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:04 pm 
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I know I'm a bit late to this party burst I have one question about the stats of the battle sisters and retributors. In zombo's list battle sisters have heavy flamer 15cm AP 4+ , and retributors have 2x heavy bolter. In this list they are flipped so battle sisters have heavy bolter and retributors have two heavy flamers. I've skimmed this thread, but couldn't find the reason for this change. Most of the other units are the same, so why this change?
I mainly want to know because I'm about to start gluing my new sisterhood minis, and I'd like to know the stability of any changes. My 28mm sisters army has already had too many conversions and weapon swaps brought about by codex changes so I'm just ultra careful where sisters are concerned :P


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