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Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Clan 4.2

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:56 pm 
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Tim, definitely some shock of the new but any army in which all/the majority of units are fearless, have 3+ invulnerable saves, move 25+, have loads of macro attacks, built in aa, 1+ activation, hit and run, farsight, and access to one of the best assault units in the game is by its very nature extremely powerful so serious thought needs to be given to balancing out these obvious strengths.


Couldn't have said it better myself.


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I actually feel this whole Overpowered concept is getting blown out of proportion in regards to this list, my personal feeling is it is more a case of people are stuck in there own ways of playing and the meta of their groups is quite consistent, and now that this list that doesn't fit within the norms of alot of peoples play groups is getting more attention and showing up a bit more, they are trying to use the same old lists to play against it. Lists like this are a good injection to improve peoples game play and variation in groups in my opinion. Weather the lists needs tweaking is open to debate, but i think there is certainly a shock factor associated with some of the response to this list. I have played a fair few games with this list in its many renditions and by no means has it been a walk over when i have won, and i have certainly lost my share of games aswell. Just my 2 cents for now, it is a interesting read this thread, and i look forward to following it more as it develops.

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It's not shock factor. It's the fact that so many aspects of this list are ridiculously OP... It's logic...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:12 am 
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To be fair, the OTT bit only applies to the Eldar Titans. So ideally the player should be encouraged to use a mix of titans and other formations in his army by pricing the titans at approximately 750+ per formation.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:13 pm 
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Ginger wrote:
To be fair, the OTT bit only applies to the Eldar Titans. So ideally the player should be encouraged to use a mix of titans and other formations in his army by pricing the titans at approximately 750+ per formation.

Aye but you do want a titan army to be mostly or all titans. To be fair the changes made to the list recently definitely go a long way towards making this viable.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:12 am 
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Battle report of 4.2.1 here:
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for keeping the discussion rolling I've been keeping an eye on it, I'm just currently away with work so once I'm home during the week I'll catch up with some comments / replies I want to make, once I have pc access again.
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Fudd wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thanks for keeping the discussion rolling I've been keeping an eye on it, I'm just currently away with work so once I'm home during the week I'll catch up with some comments / replies I want to make, once I have pc access again.
Cheers.


You are doing a great job Fudd. It's recently been clarified to me that you can in fact polish a turd but that doesn't mean it's easy!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:25 am 
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Alright, so I'm going to try and cover as many bases as possible here.

The general shock and awe of facing the army I think I can agree with Tim_nz to some extent about it being blown out of proportion, I'm certainly guilty of this myself. To an extent I think this is part of the problem, people generally don't do so well against a new list or something they're not familiar with. heck I got pumped by Necrons / Nids / Eldar / Dkok etc etc the first time I face them, simply not sure what play style or tactics to expect.

The list in its current form whilst not perfect I'm pretty confident with where we're at as far as being able to produce a far more rounded and balanced list.

I'm looking forward to getting some games in this weekend, I've been a busy boy and that's why I've been somewhat absent for the last week and a bit.

Markconz!! that army, that report, thank you!

Greg, you're a battle report trojan, thank you for your efforts.

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Phenomenal effort this year Greg with reports.
Thanks for another titan one.

I keep organising games that fall through. tough time of year to organise anything :{[]

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Brief report, using too small a number of activations, not helped by picking the most over-priced formations...
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=30808

Revenants and Phantoms in particular seem too expensive now. The old list appeared overpowered to me mainly because of mulitiple single Revenants and overpowered weapons, but now these are restricted I don't see that such horrendous points costs are justified.

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