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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:53 pm 
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The problem was pointed out in a WD about 40K Orks a while ago. Basically, the common problem is that all vehicles are Evil Sunz, all close combat are Goffs, etc.

I am happy to have my Epic Orks as Bad Moonz, but I will include buggyz, squigoths and whatever else. The same way that my World Eaters Marines have heavy weapons, and so on.

Aside from that, the clanz are fine. Most of the time, I create my own groups (Chapters, Craftworlds, etc) - but my Orks will be Bad Moonz, for the background that is already existing and filled out.





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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:03 am 
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Like I said before, the SM1 chart did a pretty good job giving each of the Ork Clans their own "flavor". ? We liked the system and kept it. ?Same goes for the SM, IG, Squats & Chaos, (in our opinion). ? The problem with too many guys making up too many of their own units is play balance. I'm all for not "being lazy" (?), and making up your own Clans, Regiments, etc., but if your "BIG KA-HOONA" Clan has all "looted" Baneblades & Imperialis, then I think that might be over the top.? And besides, most of the Ork Clans, SM units etc., we liked, they worked, and so we used them. ? All my IG Regiments' numerical designations are after units I actually served with when I was in the Army. ? The Light Infantry units I organized that way and the Mech and Armor I did the same, but based them on the SM1 templates. ?So all I'm saying you have to have some guide lines or parameters... ? After you establish that, then go for it !!! :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:47 pm 
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 05 2003 Mar.,06:03)
The problem with too many guys making up too many of their own units is play balance. I'm all for not "being lazy" (?), and making up your own Clans, Regiments, etc., but if your "BIG KA-HOONA" Clan has all "looted" Baneblades & Imperialis, then I think that might be over the top.?

totally agree

personally I would never create a "winning" clan, as in my opinion that goes against the spirit of the rules

but I also know too many players are somewhat beardy and cheesey and therefore take advantage of such things

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:26 am 
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Get yourselves over to www.epic40000.com, they have updated the website, with all the new models and suchlike!


WOOHOO!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:33 pm 
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They also have some more New Army list variants.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:12 pm 
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Thanks for the information.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:05 pm 
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WOW!!! ?

Finally some pics and some idea of what's going on. Like they never mention a new Vindicator!!! ?

What other surprises do they have in store for us? :D ?

WOO-WOO!!! :;):

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:19 pm 
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 21 2003 July,09:05)
Like they never mentioned a new Vindicator!!! What other surprises do they have in store for us? :D WOO-WOO!!! :;):


My understanding from quite some time ago was that all of the new models will look like the newer 40k versions. There won't be any more of the older Rhinos or any of the Rhino variants for example. Thus we see the unveiling of the new Vindicator.

I wish that they would have posted photos of some of the other stuff, like the new Ork models. If they look like the FW stuff, they should be really great looking.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:16 pm 
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Dafrca,

I wish that they would have posted photos of some of the other stuff, like the new ORK models. If they look like the FW stuff, they should be really great looking.


I can already see Jimbo in tears (That is if the new baby leaves him any time to cry!). I guess us Ork players will just have to wait a little longer for our teaser shots!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:34 pm 
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sniffs...

no new Ork models... to be seen

where is a Heavy Ork Bommer when you want one?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:45 pm 
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Cheers for posting this... cool pictures, pity nothing but SM tho... :L

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:04 am 
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Hi!

Are they actually going to make Epic drop pods that look like the photos?

I would definitely like some of those....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:56 am 
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Argh... the link is wrong to the EPIC Hub, they are directly linking to NetEPIC site. This is leading to quite a few confused visitors.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:36 am 
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Looks pretty good T/S !  I'd say between your SHTs and air units, you should be able to handle a Titan attack, without too much trouble. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:27 am 
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Quote (TuffSkull @ 26 2003 Oct.,21:48)


Flak Battery
3 Hydra Flak Tanks


You may want to spread these around the companies, say one each for the two mech. inf. coys and one for the tank company. That way you can cover a lot more ground with some flak and not worry about the single fragile formation.


I also have the following "floating" upgrades, ie I cant decide which companies they would be of most use for:
Tank Squadron
3 Leman Russ MBTs (that look a lot like destroyer tank hunters)
3 Leman Russ Demolishers


These are slow, which often means they are a bit of a waste with mech. inf. Use them with the heavy tanks to provide extra firepower.


Griffon Battery


These definitely go with the supreme commander. He looks like your most expensive formation. You don't want the other mech. inf. company to match his point value, due to the Break Their Spirit objective.


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