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Biel-tan Tactics

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:07 pm 
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I have only two things that I think should be in an eldar army.

Void spinners - One of the best artillery pieces for the price in the game.

Warlock Titan - the best single assault formation in the game bar none!

Phantom.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:27 pm 
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I have no idea how to counter a phantom and you can't even just run away as its pretty quick!  I hate it,  I played a game where the eldar player took one and it single handedly ruined my day destroying anything that came in range.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:16 pm 
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I run Eldar but I don´t have Titans ( I don´t like the minis ), but I have to say that they are so powerful I´m unable to counter them (I also have SM, Orks and IG)  :sad:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:29 pm 
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Quote: (BenE @ 23 Apr. 2009, 19:27 )

I have no idea how to counter a phantom and you can't even just run away as its pretty quick!

If you can't avoid them, the next best thing is to fire *everything* at them... six formations firing at a Phantom (or Warlock, or even two Revennats) will break them, even if you score no hits.

Massed fire *will* bring them down, don't let the Holofields fool you... *especially* Revenants, as they don't have reinforced armour, so every attack that gets through the Holofields is damaging.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:34 pm 
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6 formations is one hell of a lot of shooting at one unit... maybe i should start taking smaller popcorn units...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:07 am 
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Quote: (BenE @ 23 Apr. 2009, 23:34 )

6 formations is one hell of a lot of shooting at one unit...

It's a hell of a lot of shooting at one hell of a unit!  *laugh*

Once it's broken, it's not as much of a threat... and will have 2 Blast markers on it already if/when it rallies.

Additionally, six formations firing on it, might actually take it out... at 750-850 points, a Battle Titan is a pretty serious investment for an Eldar army... taking it out will certainly hurt them.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:17 am 
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if you can do it cross fire is very effictive against all the eldar titans, especially the battle titans.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:49 am 
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do they get the -1 save from their holofield?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:56 am 
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Quote: (BenE @ 24 Apr. 2009, 00:49 )

do they get the -1 save from their holofield?

Yep!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:39 am 
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-1 save? Don't the holofields just grant a 3+ invulnerable save?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:21 am 
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Quote: (GR00V3R @ 24 Apr. 2009, 02:39 )

-1 save? Don't the holofields just grant a 3+ invulnerable save?

Nope.  Nothing in the write-up for Holofields mentions "invulerable save" at all, though it's a common misinterpretation, they just get to make a "special save" vs any attacks.  The -1 to saves for crossfire still applies.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:35 am 
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Ah. Cool. Thanks for clarifying.  :))


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:42 am 
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Huh, I certainly haven't noticed that possibility (and have indeed mistaken holofield for "invulnerable").

Might be a good time to start learning crossfire tactics :grin:

Let me just add that all Eldar titans are annoying, and Revenants put out ridiculous numbers of MW hits.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:26 am 
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Guard are the best way to combat Eldar, Shadowswords, Deathstrikes & Vultures are constant worries for Eldar Titans. Faced Rug twice in one tournament and Deathstriked his phantom in each game.  :devil:

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